Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/28/1998 01:35 PM Senate TRA

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                CSHB 373(RES) - FOREST RESOURCES                               
                                                                               
PAT SPRINGER, legislative aide to Speaker Gail Phillips, sponsor of            
HB 373, read the following statement on behalf of Speaker Phillips.            
     "I am pleased to bring before you today a bill that will                  
     greatly enhance protection of Alaska's salmon resources and               
     water quality.  Thanks to a major cooperative effort between              
     timber and fishing industries, environmental groups, and state            
     agencies, we have proposed legislation designed to improve                
     present Forest Practices Act safeguards.  This cooperation                
     represents the commitment from these groups to periodically               
     reevaluate the Forest Practices Act protections for Alaskan               
     streams.  In February, 1996, the Board of Forestry heard                  
     reports from state agencies regarding the Act's effectiveness.            
     The Board found that indeed the Act generally was working well            
     in protecting salmon habitat and water quality but concluded              
     that there were some areas needing further review.  The Board             
     then established a science and technical committee to                     
     recommend modifications.  This group included scientists from             
     timber, commercial fishing, and environmental communities, as             
     well as federal and state research agencies.  After intensive             
     review, the committee identified opportunities to strengthen              
     habitat and wildlife protection.  A stakeholder committee                 
     convened to incorporate these findings into recommendations               
     for the Board of Forestry, which in turn endorsed a series of             
     amendments to the Act.  These amendments have broad consensus             
     support from all the participants.  The cooperation shown by              
     the Board members and the implementation group is indeed                  
     laudable, and as a result, we are now looking forward to                  
     better protections for our valuable salmon resources without              
     unreasonable costs to industry or private owners.  The State              
     of Alaska has one of the most effective forest practices acts             
     in the nation.  I believe the collaborative process undertaken            
     by the stakeholders in defining and agreeing to necessary                 
     protections is extremely valuable.  It's the first step                   
     forward in our continued path toward managing our marketable              
     resources while protecting our natural resources for future               
     generations.  Thank you for your consideration."                          
                                                                               
MS. SPRINGER introduced the state forester, Jeff Jahnke.                       
                                                                               
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JEFF JAHNKE, Director of the Division of Forestry in the Department            
of Natural Resources (DNR), and the presiding officer for the Board            
of Forestry, gave the following testimony in support of HB 373 on              
behalf of the Administration and the Board of Forestry.  This bill             
is the result of a carefully crafted consensus following two years             
of effort by many people in the fishing, forestry and environmental            
communities, and the agencies associated with implementing the Act.            
Key points related to the development of this legislation are:                 
     -the process of resulting recommendations was based on the                
     best available scientific information;                                    
     -the process was open to the public throughout;                           
     -many different interests were involved in each step along the            
     way                                                                       
     -the results were supported by a wide range of interests; and             
     -the interests represented by the Board of Forestry include               
     commercial fishing, forest industry, Native corporations,                 
     environmental organizations, mining, fish and wildlife                    
     biologists, professional foresters, and recreationists.                   
                                                                               
MR. JAHNKE noted Marty Welbourn, who was involved with the                     
development of this legislation over the last two years, was                   
available to speak on the specifics of the Act.                                
                                                                               
Number 117                                                                     
                                                                               
MARTY WELBOURN, Chief of Forest Resources for the Division of                  
Forestry, and Co-chair of the Science and Technical Committee, made            
the following comments.  When the Science and Technical Committee              
reviewed the Forest Practices Act in 1996 and 1997, it found that              
the Act was sound and needed few changes.  The proposed changes in             
HB 373 only affect the part of the Act that addresses stream                   
classification and riparian management on private land in Region 1,            
which includes the coastal forest in Southeast Alaska, Prince                  
William Sound, the eastern part of the Kenai Peninsula, and Kodiak.            
It also includes Mental Health Trust land within that region.                  
Under the existing Forest Practices Act, about 20 percent of                   
streams, including some anadromous streams, are unclassified and               
have no designated riparian protection area therefore requirements             
to maintain some tree cover along stream banks do not apply to                 
unclassified streams.  Tree cover provides woody debris for fish               
habitat, stabilizes stream banks to control erosion, and provides              
nutrients to the stream.                                                       
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN described the two recommendations made by the                     
committee that require statutory changes.  The first recommendation            
is to classify all anadromous streams, and all tributaries to                  
anadromous streams, and to provide appropriate riparian                        
protections.  Abundant scientific literature exists on the value of            
stream buffers for the protection of fish habitat in anadromous                
streams.   The second recommendation is to provide for more woody              
debris in Type B streams (anadromous streams with rocky banks or               
steep gradients).  Woody debris is needed for fish habitat within              
those streams, to control sedimentation, and as a source of debris             
for downstream Type A channels.  Type A channels are the most                  
productive of the salmon streams; woody debris washes downstream               
from Type B channels into Type A channels.                                     
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN continued.  HB 373 contains numerous recommendations              
from the Board of Forestry that respond to the Science and                     
Technical Committee's findings.  First, the bill changes the stream            
classification system and riparian management standards, so that               
all anadromous waters and their tributaries will be classified and             
have appropriate protection measures.  All anadromous streams                  
(salmon streams) would be classified as Type A or Type B, depending            
on the slope and the type of bank.  All salmon streams would have              
a buffer, and slope stability standards would apply to those                   
streams.  Stability standards are special requirements for road                
construction and timber yarding to prevent erosion.  They include              
a requirement to retain low value timber at the operator's                     
discretion where it is feasible to do so.  Under the existing Act,             
only Type A streams have a buffer.  These low gradient streams are             
the most highly productive.  HB 373 adds stability standards to                
those streams to 100 feet from the stream, or to the slope break,              
whichever comes first.  On Type B streams, the bill would add a                
buffer out to 66 feet or to the slope break and, in many cases, the            
buffer would be narrower than 66 feet.   The bill would classify               
all tributaries to anadromous streams as Type B or D, based on                 
their steepness, and slope stability standards would apply.  No                
buffer would be required.  On Type B streams, slope stability                  
standards would apply up to 100 feet from the stream or to the                 
slope break, whichever comes first, and on Type D streams it would             
apply up to 50 feet or the slope break.  The bill also strengthens             
the timber retention standards around larger tributaries.  It                  
requires the operator to retain low value timber where prudent                 
within a minimum of 25 feet from the stream, depending on the                  
particular stream characteristics.  These changes help ensure that             
the goals of the Act, to provide adequate protection of fish                   
habitat and water quality and to support the continuation of                   
healthy timber and fishing industries, are met.  These changes also            
help ensure that the Forest Practices Act continues to satisfy the             
requirements for nonpoint source pollution prevention under the                
federal Clean Water Act and the Coastal Zone Management Act.  The              
Forest Practices Act provides one-stop shopping for the timber                 
industry with respect to state and federal nonpoint source                     
pollution and coastal management standards.                                    
                                                                               
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SENATOR HALFORD asked whether roads that are built with public                 
funds or credits on public lands and continue as a public asset,               
remain open for use.                                                           
                                                                               
MR. JAHNKE replied DNR evaluates each road individually to                     
determine whether leaving it open for public use will affect the               
protection of water quality, fisheries, and other values.  He                  
believed the process is similar for federal land.  He stated that              
use of roads generates maintenance needs, so the cost of                       
maintenance to protect those values is also considered.                        
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD questioned whether the state gives dollars or                  
credits for the construction of roads.                                         
                                                                               
MR. JAHNKE did not believe it does.                                            
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD stated his concern is that the roads remain open               
unless there is some resource reason to close them.                            
                                                                               
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CHAIRMAN WARD said he agreed, and that is one reason why the                   
committee requested the bill.  He expressed concern that people be             
able to use logging roads with their four-wheelers.  He asked Mr.              
Jahnke if the procedure used to determine whether a road will                  
remain open is in regulation.                                                  
                                                                               
MR. JAHNKE repeated DNR looks at each road, and in its                         
responsibility to protect the resources of the State of Alaska, it             
makes a determination as to whether leaving the road open will have            
a negative impact on the resources.                                            
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WARD asked how many miles of logging roads DNR has opened             
up to the public in the last 10 years.                                         
                                                                               
MR. JAHNKE offered to get that information to the committee.                   
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN said she could not provide the specific number of                 
miles, but in the Tanana Valley, most of the logging roads stay                
open because they are long term management roads.  In other areas,             
logging roads have been closed because of particular concerns about            
long term erosion resulting from a lack of maintenance on those                
roads.                                                                         
                                                                               
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CHAIRMAN WARD asked Ms. Welbourn to elaborate on closures in the               
other areas of the state.                                                      
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN said most of the roads built in the Kenai Peninsula               
are temporary spur roads, and the main access road actually crosses            
private land.  DNR does not have the option to decide whether those            
roads will remain open because the private land owners control                 
access across their land.  Similarly, in Southeast Alaska, most of             
the main roads have already been built by the Forest Service.  The             
roads in the Haines State Forest were built by the State, and those            
roads typically stay open.                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WARD stated one of his original concerns and reasons for              
requesting this bill was due to inquiries about non-access to                  
logging roads on the Kenai Peninsula.                                          
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN repeated that most of the access to the logging roads             
is through private land, therefore access to that land is                      
controlled by the land owner.                                                  
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if DNR's policy is to close the public roads if            
they can only be accessed through private land.                                
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN repeated that typically the private land owners have              
the more accessible land.                                                      
                                                                               
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SENATOR HALFORD asked if the public roads are open once a person               
gets to them.                                                                  
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN replied they are open where they are maintained.  Some            
of the roads follow seismic lines or existing trails, and those                
would remain open.  Other roads that are built as temporary spur               
roads, typically on the Kenai, are not maintained, and have not                
been left open because of concerns about impacts on wildlife and               
fisheries.                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WARD asked whether DNR is maintaining the roads in the                
Interior.                                                                      
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN said it does.                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if the criteria is to close a logging road                 
unless it is maintained.                                                       
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN stated that is correct if there is a hazard of                    
erosion.  She added if a road is built in such a way that it would             
be fatal to use without maintenance, it is closed, otherwise the               
road building costs would be much more expensive.                              
                                                                               
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CHAIRMAN WARD asked if the fact that DNR considers the roads as                
logging trails plays into any of the scenarios.                                
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN stated logging roads are typically built to the lowest            
standards possible because of the cost of road building.                       
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WARD reiterated that people on the Kenai were refused                 
access to logging roads on four wheelers which is what prompted his            
questions.                                                                     
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN asked whether those people were on state or private               
land.                                                                          
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WARD said they were on state land.                                    
                                                                               
MS. WELBOURN said she was not aware of any specific cases but would            
look into the problem for Chairman Ward.                                       
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD asked Chairman Ward if he received a copy of the               
legal opinion on the short title for HB 373.                                   
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD said he did.                                                      
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD said the problem is technical and, according to the            
drafter, a section should be inserted that reads, "This chapter may            
be cited as the Forest Resources and Practices Act."                           
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD asked where that line should be located in the bill.              
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD answered on page 3, line 31.  He explained,                    
according to the legal opinion, the Legislature has not officially             
denominated a specific act as the Forest Resources and Practices               
Act, hence the title of the bill is over-inclusive.                            
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD moved to amend the bill to add the language, "This             
chapter may be cited as the Forest Resources and Practices Act" on             
page 3, line 31 and explained the amendment is not substantive.                
                                                                               
There being no objection, the motion carried.                                  
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN moved SCSCS HB 373(TRA) from committee with                      
individual recommendations and its accompanying zero fiscal note.              
There being no objection, the motion carried.                                  

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